Minutes P&Z 10/03/2013ClubEntities 100 Municipal Drive
Trophy ' Trophy Club, Texas 76262
Meeting Minutes
Planning Zoning Commission
Thursday, October 3, 2013 7:00 PM Svore Municipal Building Boardroom
Chairman Senelly called the October 3, 2093 Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. and announced a quorum present (5 members).
COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Present: 5 - Chairman Richard Senelly, Commissioner Fred Allen, Commissioner Mark
Sadley, Commissioner Garrett Reed, and Commissioner Brent Card
Absent: 2 - Commissioner Dennis Sheridan, and Vice Chair Larry Vowell
Chairman Senelly introduced and welcomed a new Planning and Zoning
Commissioner, Brent Card.
STAFF PRESENT.•
Karen Moore, Recording Secretary
Carolyn Huggins, Community Development Director
Tom Rutledge, Teague Nall & Perkins
GUESTS PRESENT.
Bryan Kennedy, Jones & Carter
Ubaid Mirza, Brad Garsee, and Amna Kaimkhani, Trophy Vapor
1. 2013-608-T Review and approve the minutes of the August 15, 2013, Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting.
Attachments: MeetingMinutes 081513.pdf
A motion was made by Commissioner Allen, seconded by Commissioner
Sadley, that this agenda item be Approved. The motion carried by the following
vote.
Aye: 4- Chairman Senelly, Commissioner Allen, Commissioner Sadley, and
Commissioner Reed
Abstain: 1 - Commissioner Card
2. 2013-609-T Public Hearing regarding a request for approval of an Amendment to Planned
Development No. 21 (PD -21) Ordinance No. 99-17 P&Z to allow as a permitted use a
retail store for the sale of electronic cigarette supplies. Applicant: Trophy Vapor, Inc.
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Attachments: Staff Report.pdf
Ordinance No. 2013-39 P&Z.pdf
AA plica
Plaza Shopping Center Site Plan.pdf
Use Tables E-F-G.pdf
Exhibit C - Uses - from PD -21 Development Standards.pdf
Newspaper Public Hearina Notice.pdf
Property Owner Notification. pdf
Property Owners - 200 ft.pdf
Chairman Senelly introduced the item and opened the public hearing.
The applicant, represented by Ubaid Mirza, came forward to state that they were the
owners of Mango Mama, a business that was not successful in the Plaza Shopping
Center, has now closed and they would like to open a Trophy Vapor store in the
location. He stated that this business is so new that not a lot of people know what
category it lies under— is it retail, tobacco, electronics — so that is the issue they are
facing with the shopping center in Trophy Club. He stated they do not sell any
tobacco supplies. He stated their supplies include °electronic" components so they
could be considered an electronic store. They are requesting an amendment to the
Plaza Shopping Center, Planned Development No. 21 (PD -21) zoning so they can
open up the store there. They have been open for almost a year in six locations
throughout the metroplex. He showed an example of what an electronic cigarette
looks like and explained that the device takes a nominal substance of a vegetable
glycerol and nicotine and makes a vapor. A smoker craves nicotine. The harmful
substance of a cigarette is tobacco which causes cancer. Nicotine is addictive but
does not cause cancer. Nicotine is also used in patches and gum. FDA rules do not
allow them to claim that this is a smoking cessation device because it is not approved
by the FDA to call it that. But, he claims, customers do quit "cigarettes" for good. He
stated they are headquartered out of Grapevine, Texas. He showed pictures of how
the store will took like outside and inside. He stated the stores tend to look like a bar,
but no alcohol is served. They consider themselves to be "BYOB" which means
"bring your own battery". He stated they have a lot of good reviews on the interview
and he provided a few for the Commission. He stated they haven't had a negative
comment yet, which they are very proud of. He stated that they will have 3 fulltime
employees and every store strives to hire from their own City. He indicated they
have paid $13,504.11 in sales tax in the past month from the six other locations
throughout the metropiex. He indicated they card customers and do not sell to
minors. He asked for approval of a PD amendment to allow their store in the Plaza
Shopping Center.
Chairman Senelly asked for staff comments. Ms. Huggins stated that the shopping
center is designed for a variety of retail uses and a retail electronic cigarette store
appears to be compatible with the permitted uses existing in the PD. She stated that
there is adequate parking in the shopping center for this type of use. The hours of
operation are compatible with the allowed hours of operation for the PD. The property
management company has signed off on this request. Ms. Huggins indicated that
she has not received any phone calls, emails or letters from residents within 200 -ft.
who were notified of this request. Ms. Huggins stated that staff recommends
approval of this request.
Mr. Allen asked for confirmation that they are not going to allow under 18 year olds in
the store. Mr. Mirza responded that they cannot stop anyone from coming into the
store, but they will not sell to under 18 -year olds. Mr. Allen asked if there is a law
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that says they cannot do that? Mr. Mirza stated that he is not familiar with a law
prohibiting sales to minors, but as it is an addictive substance, so they will not sell to
minors. Mr. Allen asked Ms. Huggins if she is aware of any law? Ms. Huggins stated
that there is not currently a law that restricts the sale of this product to minors.
Chairman Senelly stated that it is his understanding that there are a couple of states
that now regulate the age of sales, but Texas is not one of them. He stated that the
FDA is not involved, but that by the end of October there may be some activity by the
FDA to regulate this industry. Mr. Allen asked if this store location will be where the
Mango Mama store used to be. Mr. Mirza confirmed that the location would be the
same.
Mr. Garrett Reed asked what the Commission is voting on since it appears that this is
an allowed use. Ms. Huggins responded that in PD -21 if the use is not specifically
stated as allowed, it is prohibited. She stated that a tobacco shop is allowed but as
Mr. Mirza said, there isn't tobacco in this product. Electronic cigarettes are sold in the
Walgreens in that shopping center, but the Walgreens is a pharmacy/drug store
which is an allowed use in the PD. There isn't anything in the PD that says an
electronic cigarette supply is allowed and staff doesn't have the authority to make the
decision to allow the use if it isn't specifically listed. It must come to P&Z and
Council, which is why we are considering this item tonight. Mr. Reed said that if it
was an electronics store, it wouldn't be before the Commission tonight? Ms. Huggins
responded, "that's right".
Chairman Senelly closed the public hearing.
REGULAR SESSION
3. 2013-610-T Discussion and Recommendation regarding a request for approval of
an Amendment to Planned Development No. 21 (PD -21) Ordinance
NO. 99-17 P&Z to allow as a permitted use a retail store for the sale of
electronic cigarette supplies. Applicant: Trophy Vapor, Inc.
A motion was made by Commissioner Allen, seconded by Commissioner Reed,
that this agenda item be Recommended for Approval to the Town Council,
which will hear this item on October 21, 2013. The motion carried by the
following vote.
Aye: 5- Chairman Senelly, Commissioner Allen, Commissioner Sadley,
Commissioner Reed, and Commissioner Card
4. 2013-611-T Discussion and Recommendation regarding Preliminary Plat approval
for an approximate 10.430 acre tract of land situated in the J. Michael
Survey, Abstract No. 821, to be known as the Villas of Hogan's Glen,
Phase II. Applicant: Jason Wight, Jones & Carter, Inc. on behalf of
Midtown Development, Inc.
Attachments: Staff Report - Preliminary Plat - PZ 100313.pdf
Brian Kennedy, Jones & Carter, representing Midtown Development, request
approval of the preliminary plat of Hogan's Glen, Phase 11 for 37 residential lots and 5
open space lots.
Ms. Huggins pointed out on the map the location of the property being platted and
that the plat is consistent with the concept plan that was approved when the zoning
from this property was approved in the year 2000.
Chairman Senelly stated that there was a question that came up in a prior meeting
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regarding the drainage and sewage for this area and the Town Engineer has
indicated that these issues have been resolved favorably. Is that correct? Mr.
Rutledge, Town Engineer, TNP inc., confirmed that the issues have been resolved
favorably.
Commissioner Reed asked for specifics on how they were resolved. Ms. Huggins
responded that one of the issues with drainage was where is the water going to go?
She explained that on the south edge of the property a drainage easement has been
added, which was obtained by the applicant after discussion over the past few
months with the Country Club. In addition, an open space drainage easement was
added between Lots 17 and 18. Regarding sanitary sewer, there was a question of
whether or not a lift station had adequate capacity to provide service to this
subdivision. The Town Engineer worked with the MUD, the Town, and the applicant's
engineer to make sure that capacity was there. That took a little bit of time to resolve
and there is now a new lift station for Canterbury Hills subdivision that will handle
capacity for this subdivision.
Commissioner Reed asked if the drainage easement is a detention pond. Mr.
Rutledge explained that there is a swale and the water will run on the surface within
the drainage easement. He stated that the lots will be raised and filled in and the
water that comes from the golf course cannot come onto the Villas development so
they needed to work with the golf course so the water would flow down through the
easement into the detention pond in the comer of the Villas subdivision. There will not
be any increase in drainage downstream from what is there today.
Chairman Seneily asked if the detention pond has been adequately sized to retain
the quantity of water needed to be retained and it appears there is a wall around it
that looks like a dam. is that what it is? Mr. Rutledge stated that it is a controlled
outlet structure. Chairman Senelly asked what the function of the wall is. Mr.
Rutledge responded that it will retain the water and meter it out. Chairman Smelly
stated that the detention pond wall section has no footing. is that ok? Mr. Rutledge
explained that they will have to submit engineered plans for that wall before it can be
constructed.
Alger Moore, 407 Hogan's Drive, said that it sounds like there is water coming onto
that property from almost every side and once the property is developed, where will
all that water go? is it going to run back down Katie Lane? Mr. Kennedy, Jones &
Carter, stated that the water will flow through the property into the detention basin.
He stated that the walls of the detention pond will act as a controlled outfall structure.
Mr. Rutledge added that, right now, the site falls from the high side to the west of the
current development down to the southeast. It runs into the southeast corner where
the detention pond is designed and that is where it is metered out onto the golf
course. That is also where the drainage currently goes in its undeveloped state. It is
all running down to that corner. None of the homes that are to the west, north or
even those on the easterly area, none of this drainage will be around those homes.
Everything drains back onto the golf course, which is the reason the applicant had to
work with the Country Club to obtain an easement because all of those details had to
be worked out with the Country Club.
Michelle Reed, Katie Lane, said hello to Commissioner Alien and thanked the
Commissioners for serving the Town and spending their Thursday nights here. She
stated that there are a couple of things that concern her living on Katie Lane and
some of her neighbors, who, with football games, and couldn't make it so she is
kind -of the voice of Katie Lane a little bit. "in some of the preliminary pictures that I
had seen, you could see where the gates were going to be and I know Carolyn just
mentioned where the gates were and some of us couldn't see where they were so
can you go over where the gates are?"
Chairman Senelly: `Just for your information, the subject of gates is fine, but
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understand it has nothing to do with platting."
Ms. Reed. "and, i guess the reason why I was concerned about the gates is
whenever you look at the plat from 2000 the gates were on the plat."
Ms. Huggins: "Were you actually looking at a plat from 2000 or were you looking at
the concept plan that was part of the staff report that was given to the
Commissioners?"
Ms. Reed: "I looked at the agenda online and what was in the packet. And, if it was
a plat I wanted to make sure the gates were discussed."
Ms. Huggins: "Normally gates would not be on a plat. But what was in the packet
was the concept plan from the original zoning document and that would have things
like that."
Ms. Reed: "Ok, because when that had it and this didn't, I was like, ok that doesn't
make sense."
Ms. Huggins: `A plat is to record land boundaries and so we are recording the
boundaries of the subdivision. " [Ms. Huggins went to the podium to use the light
laser to point out where the gates would be located. Pointing to the Map on the Wall:
This is Katie Lane where it deadends right now in a cul-de-sac and it is going to
continue on to Meadowbrook. This is where Meadowbrook dead ends right now.
East and West Hillside is here. There is going to be a public street connecting
Meadowbrook and East and West Hillside Place and Katie Lane will deadend into
Meadowbrook Lane and the gate will be right there.]
Ms. Reed: `And i am sad because I wish I would have come for the platting of this
because it is sad that you have estate plats right there and then on the same street
you have little plats but I'm too late for that."
Ms. Huggins: "When that was determined was when the zoning was approved, and
the Villas were approved as part of the zoning back in 2000."
Ms. Reed. "Unfortunately. Thanks."
Ms. Huggins [to Chairman Senelly]: "if I can make a comment there?"
Chairman Senelly. "Please."
Ms. Huggins: "l think if you can give it a little bit of a chance, I think you are going to
find that the builder, in negotiations with Mr. Beck to purchase this property, to build
the homes is going to build some pretty nice looking homes in this section of Hogan's
Glen. I think it will be very compatible with the estate lot homes. Of course, the lot
sizes are half the size, minimum 7,200 sq. ft., which it was always meant to be that
with the original zoning, but i think you will find the builder, if that negotiation goes
through and that purchase goes through, the builder is going to build some very nice
homes in that section of Hogan's Glen."
Chairman Senelly: `7 personally have had a lot of experience with this area, it's
where I walk my dogs, and i know where the water ponds. i know what the issue is,
right now. When those small ponds fill up, what happens is it spills over and it goes
the same direction that it is going to go when this development is built. The only
difference will be is that there's more substantial detention than there is now and the
drainage will have a more directed flow until it leaves the confines of this
development and then it looks like if will sheet flow onto the golf course as it does
now. i don't know of any reason to expect that it is going to be much different on the
golf course side than it is today. But I do know that the property where the houses are
going to be won't be as wet as it is now. That's just my own experience."
Commissioner Garrett Reed: `You said the lift station had to be upgraded or
expanded?"
Mr. Rutledge: "No, not really." He explained that there was a timing issue. There
was a lift station designed for Canterbury Hills. The Canterbury Hills development
was developed first and then this subdivision came online. The engineers for both
projects had to be brought together to share and compare data for the lift station to
make sure there was adequate capacity for both subdivisions. Mr. Rutledge stated:
"/t took a while, but the developer for Canterbury Hills actually was real gracious to
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hold up shipping that whole lift station until we could grind through the calculations.
So we worked with Jones & Carter as they evaluated the lift station to make sure it
did have the capacity because there was a concern about that. We wanted to make
sure that if there needed to be modifications to it that it could happen prior to it being
installed. It is a very substantial lift station so as it's turned out, the studies and the
reports were all updated to allow for this additional flow and we're all good."
There was a question asked if the developers split the cost of the lift station. Town
Staff does not know the answer to that question as that is a matter between the
developers, but as far as the Town and MUD are concerned, Mr. Rutledge stated that
this development is compatible with what the lift station is going to receive.
Chairman Senelly called for a motion.
Commissioner Allen made a motion to approve the preliminary plat for Villas of
Hogan's Glen, Phase ll. Commissioner Sadley seconded the motion. The vote was
4-1. Commissioner Reed voted against the plat.
Ms. Huggins: `A plat that meets the Subdivision Rules and Regulations cannot be
denied."
Commissioner Garrett Reed: "Then why bring it before this body?"
Ms. Huggins: "Because our ordinances require that P&Z review it. "
Chairman Senelly: 'Approved".
Ms. Huggins: "Thank you."
Mr. Reed. "Let's speed things up next time. it doesn't matter what we vote.
A motion was made by Commissioner Allen, seconded by Commissioner
Sadley, that this agenda item be Recommended for Approval to the Town
Council, which will hear this item on October 21, 2013. The motion carried by
the following vote.
Aye: 4- Chairman Senelly, Commissioner Allen, Commissioner Sadley, and
Commissioner Card
No: 1 - Commissioner Reed
5. 2013-612-T Discussion and Recommendation regarding Final Plat approval for an
approximate 10.430 acre tract of land situated in the J. Michael
Survey, Abstract No. 821, to be known as the Villas of Hogan's Glen,
Phase II. Applicant: Jason Wight, Jones & Carter, Inc. on behalf of
Midtown Development, Inc.
Attachments: Staff Report - Final Plat - PZ 100313.pdf
ADDlication - Final Plat.Ddf
Chairman Senelly announced the case stating that the last item of business this
evening is the f=inal plat approval for the Villas of Hogan's Glen, Phase 11. He
explained that they are considering the preliminary and final in the same evening. He
stated that the final plat approval looks just like the preliminary plat. No change. He
asked for any discussion or comments from the Commissioners. There were none
and the Chairman called for a motion.
A motion was made by Commissioner Allen, seconded by Commissioner
Sadley, that this agenda item be Recommended for Approval to the Town
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Council, which will hear this item on October 21, 2013. The motion carried by
the following vote.
Aye: 4- Chairman Senelly, Commissioner Allen, Commissioner Sadley, and
Commissioner Card
No: 1 - Commissioner Reed
Chairman Senelly adjourned the meeting at 7:43 p.m.
Carolyn Hug s, Community Development Director
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